Wednesday, September 30, 2009

I see President Zapatero “brought some glamour” to the Labour party annual conference in the UK. Where he allegedly gave Gordon Brown some advice on winning elections. If he went on to give him suggestions on how to deal with a recession, then every street in Britain could soon look like this . . .


Talking of our friend Señor Z, I regularly say I wouldn’t want his challenge of running this fissiparous country. And now there are even fewer reasons for wanting to be in his shoes. For, apart from the fact that the powerful PRISA media group is gunning for him, it’s beginning to look like the Czechs may kibosh the Lisbon Constitution-disguised-as-a-Treaty just as Spain takes over the running of the EU in January. I’m almost beginning to feel sorry for the man. And two Goth daughters as well!

It’s a commonplace statement in Spain these days that young women smokers far outnumber the young men. Sadly, the legions who think it’s glamorous, sophisticated and appetite-suppressing seem ever younger. But I must say I was a little surprised to see the postwoman dragging on a cigarette this morning as she handed over my mail as I was leaving the house.

However, things could get worse. For I may have experienced my first true Spanish chavette. For which the local word is marula and the more-aggression-denoting national word is perhaps macarra. Anyway, I was standing at a zebra crossing when she, naturally, drove straight past me, with her radio blasting from her open front windows. Which may or may not have been as black as all the others. But I caught up with her at the bottom of the hill, where she was shouting obscenities at the hapless trainee driver – a sister – trying to pluck up enough courage to manoeuvre her coach out onto the roundabout. The cursing proving ineffective, our female friend then initiated a chorus of angry horn blasts. I do hope this isn’t another sign of the changing times here. I can get this experience any day in the UK.

Presumably as a result of a dispute with his neighbours, a house-seller in nearby Sanxenxo has put up a sign saying he’ll only take offers from gypsies. A few years ago, I joked to my neighbours that I’d happily accept from a group of them a price higher than anything I could get for my house from a family from one of the two nearby settlements. But none of them saw the funny side of this. Even though a gypsy family could well have been quieter than Toni.

Well, I read my first Twitter message today. But only because someone arrived at my blog because of it. So, many thanks Graham Hunt (I believe) for your very kind comment. And welcome to the three new Followers of this blog of the last week or so.

Publishing Note

Today’s additions to Galicia: The Switzerland of Spain . . .

Chapter 4: The Salve Regina
Chapter 6 : Santiago
Chapter 7 : Architecture
Chapter 16: Santiago de Compostela
Chapter 21 : Vigo and Tuy [Tui]
Chapter 22 : Orense [Ourense]

Frankly, unless you’re a pious Catholic, I wouldn’t bother with Chapter 4. Likewise, unless you’re very keen on buildings, you might want to give Chapter 7 a miss. However, if you’re a Galician nationalist, both are compulsory reading as source material for future boasts about the ancient Kingdom of Galicia. Or Lusitania anyway. That said, if you’re a true nationalist, you’ll already have read the book as Galicia Inédita, despite it being in Castellano. Incidentally, this is another example of the Spanish custom of changing titles for no apparent reason.

If you read Chapter 21, you’ll quickly note Ms Meakin has rather more to say about tiny Tui than about pretty-large Vigo. I’m guessing this is because the latter doesn’t have a basilica or cathedral to get flushed about.

Finally, I’d just like to say the prehistoric rock drawings Ms Meakin mentions towards the end of the Pontevedra chapter are only a couple of hundred metres from my house. Though you’d be hard pushed to find the pine wood she talks about. It’s all bloody eucalyptus trees now.

46 comments:

Cade said...

What has the ancient kingdom of Galicia got to do with Lusitania?! Never heard such association before. Is it a new theory by yourself? Dear oh dear ...



By the way, Mr Davies, Galician nationalists will boast no less no more than Spanish nationalists. They will cling to any shred of evidence for their claims. However, and since history is written by the winners, they still have to write their own, whereas Spanish nationalists (including those from Galicia) have it written already. It is the same you know, Mr Davies, the one that explain all you read in the Spanish press.



Anyway, I may read that chapter on architecture, when / if I get the time, but I am sure there is plenty of material for the Galician nationalist among their own writers. Or do they need some outsider to illuminate them about themselves? Perhaps someone from a superior race?

active antenna said...

Señor Cade. "Or Lusitania anyway." Why are you replying in English if you don't understand what you read in English?

Colin said...

"Rome installed a colonial regime. During this period, Lusitania grew in prosperity and many of modern day Portugal's cities and towns were founded. In 27 BC, Lusitania gained the status of Roman province. Later, a northern province of Lusitania was formed, known as Gallaecia, with capital in Bracara (today's Braga)."

active antenna said...

Colin. Explains well why I quoted you in my above comment to Señor Cade.

Cade said...

Quote:

"However, if you’re a Galician nationalist, both are compulsory reading as source material for future boasts about the ancient Kingdom of Galicia. Or Lusitania anyway."

Mr Davies, future boasts from Galician nationalists (a very bad bunch no doubt) may include territorial claims in Mars ... who knows?!

I prefer to focus on present boasts, though. And the most conspicuous, so far, is your own claim to utter ignorance, Mr Davies. You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

Get your facts right, starting by the Roman territorial administrative divisions of Iberia, Mr Davies. Then, a bit Iberian ethnography. Go back to school. There are too many antennae out of tune that buy too easily into the first of your partial and ill-conceived passing remarks.

It's starting to stink here.

rusty pin said...

"It's starting to stink here." Cade you could be up to your neck in pig shit but this blog will still seem like heaven to you. Colin has just given you the the perfect reason to start your own blog. However, you are such a wimp it won't happen and you will keep coming back here even if he starts pissing on you. I should imagine you have been banned from starting one!

Cade said...

rusty pin, before you go irremediably rotten I suggest you mind your foul language and if you have something intelligent of your own to add to the debate please do.

Perhaps you have your own theory on the conexion between the ancient kingdom of Galiza and the Roman province of Lusitania. That'd be a breaking ground, at least as far as Galician nacionalism is concerned.

So far the only wimp here was the author of the blog (and some readers too), with his wilful malicious remarks about Galician nationalists and his ridiculous worries and fears about the imposition of Galician language in the country.

Now you add yourself to the unhappy bunch, but let me tell you something, you filthy pin: anyone can be an ignorant or an idiot, of their own volition, but that doesn't make it a human right. So anytime you right an idiocy here you expose yourself at being reminded that you are indeed an idiot. And without me being pissed on.

Colin said...

Cade,

What I love about you is that, like a stupid fish, you can be guaranteed to rise to any bait thrown onto the waters of the black, embittered and very shallow waters in which you lurk. And from which you spew your mis-aimed bile.

Your English is clearly not as good as you think it is and you appear to lack any sense of irony whatsoever. For this reason, as has been pointed out, you don’t understand what you are reacting to. And so you constantly set up straw targets and then knock them down. Making an even bigger fool of yourself in the process.

I feel rather sorry for my poor Galician readers, as you are doing your utmost to further the image – ironically from the UK – of the stubborn, thick Gallego that Ms Meakin mentions in one of her chapters. And which she and I both reject.

As for me, I enjoy reading your woeful attempts at clever humour. Or humorous cleverness. Whatever it is you are aiming at. So, please stay here and continue to brighten my day. As even you will surely be able to note, there’s absolutely nothing you could say that would upset me.

rusty pin said...

You say you are just testing the waters. Well, this is what you can expect. As a filthy pin I have news for you. No one is interested but yourself. Anyone who happens to be studying or paid for lessons in Galego will not be pleased to hear you telling them that they are not speaking or writing correct Galego. Go over to Galicia and preach your sermon to the Galegos who you believe need converting. Leave someone back in the UK in charge of your affairs so that that person can inform us when you have arrived back in the UK in a pine box. On second thoughts don't go to Galicia otherwise I won't be able to get on your blog so I can put some excitement into it.

Cade said...

Dear Mr Davies, my English is clearly as good, or as bad, as I deem it to be (which in any case is far better than your Spanish, not to mention your “gallego”), that is, enough to understand what your are implying with your passing remarks here and there about Galician nationalism, which is exactly what I am reacting to. You may find them amusing, but I happen not to. Perhaps you should question your own skill at irony. You made a big blunder by showing off an utter ignorance of the country’s history you live in (that Old Galician Kingdom-Galician nationalists-Roman province of Lusitania). I pointed out at your error, but you replied by quoting some unidentified text on the Roman period, as if to support your (unfortunate) connection and refute my observation at your error. If that was an attempt at irony, I find it quite pathetic.

Now, you rant about me being like a stupid fish spewing bile at you, but you haven’t even bother to rectify your error, or to refute my observation, or otherwise to see something funny about it (about your ignorance or about my observation) so that we can all laugh about this occurrence. It seems that you can’t be wrong, and not only that, it seems that you can’t take it in the chin when someone tells you are wrong. That doesn’t look good on you, does it?

As about me furthering the image of that Ms Meakin, I think that is a matter for your readership to decide themselves, rather than you assuming what they may or may not think. That comment on your “poor” Galician readership is yet another patronizing sad remark, it doesn’t make you any good, believe me.

It’s not my intention to make you upset, Mr Davies, you just get your facts right, and we then talk, otherwise try to see the funny side of yourself, I might as well find it funny, who knows!

Cade said...

@ rusty pin

Don’t worry about me opening a blog, it would risk attracting the uncouth like you and I am not in evangelizing mood for your kind of folk. I suggest you drop your galego lessons and find a pub somewhere the Costa del Sol. Have a few paints and you’ll see how it is better value for your money.

rusty pin said...

Cade.
You haven't got the cojones to write your own blog. Not only that but you will be bored to tears waiting for just one comment from someone sensible because I would be the only idiot who would be reading it. I read in the April edition of National Geographic Magazine that Columbus spoke with a Galego accent and Henry the navigator had to get an interpreter so he could understand what he was saying. No wonder Henry didn't back him. In the end he got Isabel and Ferdinand to back him. They knew they were onto something big and look how it has paid off. Go to the smallest village anywhere in the world and you can sign up for Spanish lessons. And please try to read what I type and not make things up in your head. Comprehension is the big word of the day. Oh yes, from what I hear Spanish beer is like water. I pity those poor buggers who go there for holidays.

Cade said...

rusty, I am starting to doubt my own capability to understand English - perhaps colin was right after all - as I haven't got a clue what you are on about.

I'll try my best though: don't try Guiness, as they are as useless at pouring a pint of it as they are in Britain. San Miguel tastes different from the one brewed in the UK, but if you want a good beer try then imported ones, Belgian, German ...

Don't try though reading while drinking, as it may cause delusional effects or play tricks with your mind, making you believe that international enterprises of the highest rank were decided, by the end of the Middle Ages, on the grounds of peoples accents, body fat or similar nonsense. There is no point in denying that at that time any educated Castilian would have had no problems to make himself understood in Portugal, let alone a Galician, who spoke the same language as the Portuguese. Even an educated well travelled Italian Jew would find himself on home ground. Also, let’s not forget that any medieval European king was probably well versed in different languages (unless he was the King of England, in which case he may well have been monolingual – in French). And finally, what about the figure of the translator, the interpreter … ? All of this facts will vanish in an altered state of mind, hence my suggestion not to drink while reading. Why don’t you try smoking cannabis?: it results in adding a pinch of humour to your most ridiculous beliefs.

Colin said...

Cade

You are clearly someone who needs help. So this is the very last thing I will write to you.

I am perfectly aware of the gap of centuries between what AM calls the first golden age of Galicia – the 5th century – and the age of the Kingdom of Galicia. As you will surely know, two of the 3 stars of the former cited by DM were associated with Braga. Or the north of Lusitania. If you want to differ with this, then go ahead. I doubt that anyone cares. I certainly don’t.

As I say, I have long wondered whether your inability to understand what I write is simply wilful. But, as I’ve also said, I couldn’t care less whether it is or it isn’t, as your views and comments are only of interest to me as amusement.

So, keep on writing to your sad heart’s content. I will continue to laugh at you and your obsessions.

Let me know when your blog is up an running. I’ll then check it from time to time to see how many readers you’ve got. So don’t forget to put a counter on it.

By the way, I’m happy to accept your English is better than my Spanish and Gallego. But that’s hardly the point is it? I’m not reading and writing to a blog in either of these languages. So, your point is irrelevant. The issue is your ability to understand things in English, not mine in Spanish or Gallego.

Adios.

rusty pin said...

Cade while I was reading your comments I put the kettle on. Then I took it off. It didn't suit me. There is no doubt you don't understand what you are reading but just take each word in turn and understand that particular word. Well done, however, you have to string all the words together to make sense of what they mean. Then it all becomes clear. You really are easy for a wind up.

Cade said...

Mr Davies, your ignorance about the history of Galiza is only equal to the public display you make of it (you are lucky enough though that your readership is as ignorant as yourself, to hide this fact, but you are primus inter pares, no doubt).

My sources about the History of the British Isles go beyond what any Spanish or any Galician writer have conjured up about their (real or imaginary) travels on this part of the world. I give credit enough to local sources. If I open a blog about my life here, you can rest assure that it won't be for public display of ignorance and prejudices to my peers, as the perpetuing of ignorance is not one of my aims in life. Even if I had thousands of that kind of readers, I couldn't care less to create such a blog, believe me.

Now you have made clear your inability to have a laugh at yourself and admit your gaps in Galician history, by asserting yourself insisting (in this last comment) on the accuracy of the post remark, the one that triggered my first comment here.

Or is it a very sophisticated joke, that thing about Braga as the capital of "North of Lusitania"?

Cade said...

rusty pin, that was a great idea, a cannabis herb infusion!

Cade said...

I rectify what I wrote about mr Davies "gaps in Galician history". If the problem was only a matter of gaps (or even blatant inaccuracies) then that'd be no problem. The real problem here is his inability to understand the History of the country, beyond conventional and superficial lines. Now, we can have a laugh about that lack of critical discernment, or intentional bias, but mr Davies is not having that.

Poor chap!

rusty pin said...

Cade on this day in 1969; Concorde supersonic transport plane breaks the sound barrier for the first time; in 1971, Walt Disney World in Orlando Florida, opens its doors and as recently as 1982 Sony launched the first consumer compact disc player (model CDP-101 for those interested!). Isn't it just amazing what you can learn on this blog? You could do that on your blog when you open it instead of trying to use someone else's. But then you are a very insecure person and have to lean on someone else because you are too timid to make a move on your own. As you keep coming back for more then there must be something I am saying that tickles your fancy and you are actually enjoying every moment of it but trying to pretend that you are infuriated by my ignorance and uncouth manner. My comments probably give you the superior feeling that you need each day so it's good to know that I am not wasting my time here.

Colin said...

Nicely put, RP. The response from one or other of the Cades should provide a good laugh later on in the day. Perhaps several.

Colin said...

P. S. There's a reward for anyone who can find where I wrote "the capital of North Lusitania".

And another one for anyone who understands what Cade means by "Ms Meakin's image", as opposed to the (Spanish) image of stupid Gallegos which she rejected. As I do. As a generalisation. Obviously there are exceptions.

Cade said...

rusty boy, I am not coming here to know about the anniversary facts of the day, but to expose the biased portrayal of my country's ailing culture and perversion of its history, that the author of this blog is, consciously and unconciouscly, spreading among English readership.

Any personal matter is just part of the background lights and decoration, but essencially irrelevant. Anyway, I appreciate your kind consideration.

It is not my intention to open a blog to indoctrinate the unwise, it is not within my vocation. Anyone should be free to think as they please, the same as I should be free to point out at their possible folly. Anyone can do their own research, but when making any claim that is contested, they should back it up, rather than going off the tangent invoking personal issues or shortcomings in the contesting person.

If you are waiting for someone to "show you the way", I am sorry to disappoint you that it is not me. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and point at two single facts (among possible hundreds), relevant for this thread:

1) Suggesting or invoking the name of the ancient roman province of Lusitania as an argument / against / for Galician nacionalism is utterly ridiculous. And something new, as far as i know. With the same frame of mind, we can invoke the name of the old Roman province of Tarraconensis. Thereon, a claim on Catalonia, on Barcelona, for Galician nationalists. How legitimate / glorious / ludicrous / ... is that, for a Galician nationalist? Shall we include that too in their future repertoire of arguments / boasts, or just as a furtehr proof of their present folly?

2) Among Galician nationalists there is "all sorts". It is not fair to pick on one of them to blemish the whole. If you were interested in this kind of tactics, though, I can give you a much, far better argument: there are certain groups of Galician nationalists of the neo-nazi creed. This type of retards would provide you with a much better excuse to go on the line of this blog, that is, to support / justify Spanish nationalism, or "bilinguismo cordial" as they call it in Galiza. (That would be a great move on you, opening your own blog, hand by hand, with mr davies, working for the glory of the most glorious nation on earth: Spain!)

Colin said...

"Suggesting or invoking the name of the ancient roman province of Lusitania as an argument against/ for Galician nacionalism is utterly ridiculous."

Exactly. You finally seem to have got the point. My 'target' was/is the Galician Nationalists who do exactly this. If you are a different sort of nationalist, then bully for you. At least we seem to despise some of the same people.

But is there anyone else in your (angry) camp?

Cade said...

Now Mr Davies, you are bordering the utter stupidity personified. Your disguised insults are beyond the point. It’s clear now that you are dead serious about yourself, you sad big headed old geezer. Ok no problem we’ll, a have a double laugh.

Forget about Lusitania, please, don’t bury yourself deeper and deeper in the mud. Don’t insult your readers intelligence: you spoke of Braga as part of the north of “Lusitania”, little matter as a capital city or otherwise: your blunder is written and re-written.

What I made or misinterpreted of the image that that Ms Meakin here had of Galicians, being positive or negative, is of none relevance here: you used the idea of the negative image about Galicians (whether from the Spaniards or from that woman is, I repeat, irrelevant) as an excuse to imply at my supposed stubbornness and other negative tracts. Another insult in disguise, very subtle and ironic, yes.

We'll keep on talking, no problem.

Kind regards.

rusty pin said...

Cade.
Bad news and good news I'm afraid. This is my last comment because tomorrow I have to be back in the UK. I am actually sitting in Sada where my wife and I have rented a small flat for a short holiday. Nice place and the sand on the beach is very fine and almost like dust. Good for walking barefoot but I should imagine a headache if the wind is blowing and you are trying to eat your tortilla whilst on the beach. I have to be on the road on Sunday because I am going to the west country. In my work I calibrate the equipment used in MOT stations so I have to travel around and I don't usually take my laptop with me. Problem with lack of good WIFI sites. So you won't be able to enjoy my little comments. Rusty pin will probably make sense to you now - MOT failures due to rust. So what is the bad news then? You will be suffering withdrawal symtoms because there will be no one to talk to you. And what have I learned since coming for the first time to Galicia? My wife and I usually go to the areas around Barcelona but decided to try this part of the country after seeing a program on TV about Galicia. Your picture of Galicia and reality are like chalk and cheese. Where oh where do you get all this hatred from? Portugal - been there and the people are very friendly while your wallet is heavy. After that very cool. Galegos- give you the shirt off their back if they have to. What an eye opener coming to this part of Spain. Ata loguiño!

Colin said...

Cade

My point was that you don't read or understand what I write.

No, we won't continue. I have a thousand things better to do. You really are on your own from here on it. Though I would be interested to know if there is anyone else at all in the world marching to the beat of your discordant drum.

Over and out.

Cade said...

colin wrote (his last comment):

""Suggesting or invoking the name of the ancient roman province of Lusitania as an argument against/ for Galician nacionalism is utterly ridiculous."

Exactly. You finally seem to have got the point. My 'target' was/is the Galician Nationalists who do exactly this. If you are a different sort of nationalist, then bully for you. At least we seem to despise some of the same people.

But is there anyone else in your (angry) camp?"



Oh, I apologise, mr Davies, I didn't get what you were really implying at, how daft I am!

Now, would you be so kind to let me know (I can pay you, if you want) WHO is the Galician nationalist who is making that Lusitania connection, or WHERE is it WRITTEN, or SUGGESTED?

You know, otherwise I am going to keep on thinking the same: that you talk through your arse.

Cade said...

Happy to hear about your love for Galicians, rusty pin, but I’m afraid that I won’t miss you going. Anyway, you have made up your mind on what to think about Galicians, Portuguese, Spaniards, perhaps Russians and French too. You are not my type. I am more of the inquisitive one. I guess that if I was busy doing the MOT probably my curiosity would be more focused on certain motor technicalities, nothing wrong with that.

Cade said...

Oh yes, Mr davies, we’ll keep on talking, don’t you worry, may be not today, may be not even tomorrow, may be not even next week, but we’ll always find the time to continue our discussions, since we started them, more than one year ago by now. We have plenty of spare time, don’t we?

But let’s not loose focus: you made a clear implication at the existence of nationalists who use the old Roma province of Lusitania as an argument for (or is it against?) their ideology. I will wait, patiently, for the names, the medium where this is explained, etc. Remember, you are dead serious about this. You take yourself very seriously, don’t you, you big headed arrogant old timer.

active antenna said...

Well rusty pin I should think that Cade's "anger" is the result of being taken to England while a child when he didn't want to leave his homeland. Adults can make changes to their life with little difficulty but a child is on his own when learning a new language and customs. There are always bullies in society and children enjoy that very much. He probably became the punch bag for everyone at school and the more he resisted the more they dished out. He has never forgiven his parents for making such a move and he tries to destroy what is close to them. Galicia. However, he has found a dream of a new Galicia that is going to be perfect in language and person and so his whole life is now devoted to that cause.

Cade said...

All this argument stems from, according to mr Davies, my inability to understand what he writes, what he is really getting at. Happily, after nearly 30 comments, he has made it explicit to me, and for evryone's relief, what his real point was.

However, Mr davies hasn't realised that I had gotten that real point from the word go (check my first comment). So all that distracting and smearing exercise was just a pretense that has led nowhere, other than his repeated portrayal of me as a stupid fish uncapable to understand and similar things.

But this doesn't matter now. the point he was making was the same, all along. Now that it is beyond any doubt, let's hope that he can provide the proofs that back up his implications.

I'll be most surprised to learn that they ACTUALLY EXIST or HAVE EVER EXISTED. You never know, he may find some evidence a posteriori. However, I don't envy his new self-imposed research task. But, no worries, he is a hard-workig chap, he will find that evidence, only if to help himself from looking like a poor idiot!

Cade said...

Active antennae, this blog is for adults, not for teenagers playing shrinks. The issues here are about language, culture, politics, etc, among other more banal things. There is no need to be political correct, even if you don't have any ideas of your own to add to the debate.

active antenna said...

Cade. Filthy, ignorant, idiot, uncouth, smoking cannabis, sad big headed old geezer, arse. Yes you have the vocabulary that a teenager should not be reading and I am going to take your advice and stay clear of debating. I hope my parents don't come across this blog and see I have been reading it.

ointe said...
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ointe said...

I really can´t believe what´s happening here! Are you, people, making a show outside of circus to make clients on internet town?

This is not serious nor funny!. We all know that, as Mr Colin said before, he was putting some spicy comments to get reactions. We know that this technique is used very frequently to "make" discussions. It´s the option of Mr Colin to make it against Galicia or nationalists or to make it in the opposite sense. So Cade reacted even knowing that´s what Colin expected...AND WHAT?

The three against one show is good if this one is better. Is that the case here?

And we can´t expect that Mr Colin has the truth on all his sayings. They are "thoughts" not facts, they are biased, yes, but only thoughts. In fact, the bads are as good as the good ones, because they give the oportunity to reply and correct if necesary with real facts (sorry Mr. Colin, there were many to talk now, if we start from the beginning of your blog)

It´s in fact a pleasure to read how some of his thoughts change in few days. We all know, thanks to him, that AM was not catholic at all and that she was only writing the history as she knew it, or was told to her. The chapter on emigration was not very credible though. She clearly takes Mr Borrow ways when talk about it without knowing exactly the reasons, even when she was told about them. No celt spirit of adventure when people has to go with tears in the eyes is valid, nor is valid to say that they didn´t know how to make the land productive when they done so well in America. She don´t tell about the minimum size of the land properties and taxes without any measure as the main reasons.

But we can forgive that, she done it very well on other aspects as in the Sar chase.

She was a spirit in all the style of Herodotus and some more ancient ones: very biased, very misinformed sometimes, but very inquisitive, curious, clever and (in my opinion) real.

It´s a pleasure also to read how some thoughts changed even more, like discovering now that Mr Borrow was a novelist (more or less).

Keefieboy said...

Bloody hell.

gluteus maximus said...

It would appear that there is one main character here who wants everyone in the world to follow what he believes and not to deviate in any way from his beliefs. He is going to have to learn that the world is not his oyster. Anyone who cares can come on here and write whatever they like with or without proof. I don't have to believe everything that is written here. I just read it. The main character who comments here is obsessed and unstable. It could be a hundred against one and he will still persist because of his condition.

Cade said...

hey, big bum, I don't want anyone to follow my beliefs, I was just challenging this blog author's beliefs, but the guy is just too idiot to admit to his own mistakes, he has always to point at someone else's misreading him.

Only because I was a bit persistent he ended up owning up, but if all the idiot brits (the first one was the rotten M.O.T. pin, now you are the last one) that popped in this time had abstained from giving him your stupid and superficial support ... hey! we would have settled this marginal question in three or four comments!

The guy is a poor arrogant who has a worrying compulsion to spill his guts about his dog, his daughters or his boiler, to make it known net wide. Your encouragement is having the adverse effect of making him look and feel even more miserably, because in the end you are just the odd passing idiot to add a further bit of salt to his sad life in Spain, but know fucking all about Spain or Galiza, so you will never challenge any of the distorted ideas and facts that he uses to write, you just say hi, tap in the back and good bye, move to the next part of the thematic park of the world.

If you want to put forward yet another breaking ground stupid theory, bi fat ass, go ahead, but it won't be easy to raise the standards: the last passing idiots' one was about the Spanish discovery of America beacause of the Galician accent of Columbus (was he even Galician!? wow!) Or perhaps it wasn't that his theory, it could have been me not understanding English ...

gluteus maximus said...

Cade.
You can't comprehend what you read. You just look at words and then get all excited when you see one you don't like. Take another look at the comment from rusty pin and look again at the words. APRIL APRIL APRIL was the edition of the National Geographic. (For Spanish readers same as 28 of December.) See big mouth you can't comprehend what you read. So you jump at the first bit that catches your eye and come back with a load of spiel about kings etc. I'm glad you like my title as it probably gives you a feeling of superiority. I have a bigger chair for my gluteus maximus than you can afford to buy. Aren't you lucky that you are anonymous like me and none of your friends will see what a big arsehole you are.

Cade said...

oh, I apologise to rusty pin for not reading in detail that his comment had an intentional joke (April) attached. However, it was all out of place in the first place: nobody had asked him to show his skills at irony. He should test his skills elsewhere, this was the wrong place.



The issue wasn’t about his own skills, or even mine, it was about the inacurate, ill conceived and malicious remark at Galician nationalists that the author of the blog made (read my first comment)



Now you add yourself to the happy bunch. You haven’t got a clue on what I am talking about, because, as I said before, you know fuck all about Iberian and Galician history or culture, the matter treated here. And despite that you intend to teach lessons here!



The biggest arsehole, so far, it is the one hardly seen though between your obnoxious huge gluteous. You came here with nothing to say but to spew your ignorance through the wrong end. The same sad way you came, now you go.

gluteus maximus said...

cade.
All of this nonsense comes as a result of a couple of books that were written years ago. One of them is written by Meakin about Galicia which is causing a storm in a tea cup. It was published in 1909. What does that indicate? A time when class was important. First, second, third and if you travelled by ship and thought you were not worthy of third class you could go baggage. The book was written for a particular class of person of that period. Read that sentence again cade. There is a dedication at the front which says "This volume is respectfully dedicated to Her Majesty Victoria Eugenia Galicia's Queen." Well that should give you a clue as to who is going to buy and read it in 1909. You should not be even looking at that book or reading its contents. And while you are at it get yourself a real man's name. Cade sounds like a soap powder. Oh darling can you get me another packet of cade I've just run out.

Cade said...

cu máximo,

you are a poor chap you are! You haven’t even read my first message, the one that started it all!

Nothing to do with that woman or any book. It is about (and still I have to mention it again and again!!) the malicious remarks made to portray Galician nationalists as pityful boisterous folk (check my first message, please), it was triggered by this comment by hapless Mr Davies:



"However, if you’re a Galician nationalist, both are compulsory reading as source material for future boasts about the ancient Kingdom of Galicia. Or Lusitania anyway."


The relevant part is the last one, the book was only the excuse to make that comment, and I reproduced it to put the unlucky comment in context:



.“.. FOR FUTURE BOASTS (by Galician nationalist folks) ABOUT THE ANCIENT KINGDOM OF GALICIA. OR LUSITANIA ANYWAY“

Now, do you have any comment on this respect, or you don't have the foggiest as I assume? Please, feel free to give your opinion, being it to prove Mr davies remark right or to prove it wrong and / or malicious. That be the first real response to my first and initial comment. That'd be a great achievement for all us here! wow!



Anyway, I may be having a look at the book, but it is not one of my first priorities at the moment. I haven’t even read a fraction of the work written by Galician scholars about my own country although I consider what foreigns write about their experiences in my country, in present and past times, always as an important document, being French, Italian, German, Russian, Morroccan or from any other country of the world.



Respect to my nick, don’t even mention it pal, and I mean it! No, no, it is not “cadee“. You look a real idiot saying it! It is not an English word, you silly monolingual ignorant!

Cade said...

@maximus gluteus


I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and guide you to what is the question here (which Mr Davies owned up to only through my sheer “perseverance“ and after all kind of diverting and smearing comments, from his part and from his pathetic sycophants):



I wrote, to the rotten MOT pin, yesterday at 12:21:



"1) Suggesting or invoking the name of the ancient roman province of Lusitania as an argument / against / for Galician nacionalism is utterly ridiculous. And something new, as far as i know. With the same frame of mind, we can invoke the name of the old Roman province of Tarraconensis. Thereon, a claim on Catalonia, on Barcelona, for Galician nationalists. How legitimate / glorious / ludicrous / ... is that, for a Galician nationalist? Shall we include that too in their future repertoire of arguments / boasts, or just as a furtehr proof of their present folly?

2) Among Galician nationalists there is "all sorts". It is not fair to pick on one of them to blemish the whole. If you were interested in this kind of tactics, though, I can give you a much, far better argument: there are certain groups of Galician nationalists of the neo-nazi creed. This type of retards would provide you with a much better excuse to go on the line of this blog, that is, to support / justify Spanish nationalism, or "bilinguismo cordial" as they call it in Galiza. (That would be a great move on you, opening your own blog, hand by hand, with mr davies, working for the glory of the most glorious nation on earth: Spain!)"

Cade said...

Yesterday, at 12:36, mr davies writes the following answer to this my message, quoting me first:


“"Suggesting or invoking the name of the ancient roman province of Lusitania as an argument against/ for Galician nacionalism is utterly ridiculous."

Exactly. You finally seem to have got the point. My 'target' was/is the Galician Nationalists who do exactly this. If you are a different sort of nationalist, then bully for you. At least we seem to despise some of the same people.

But is there anyone else in your (angry) camp?“

colin davies



Unfortunately, the question here, mr gluteus, is that there can no be no angry camp when there is no enemy, that is, the association of Galician nationalists with Lusitania is something as exotic as an association with Transilvania! It never existed! And MR Davies was pointing at that association,(very original, yes, I admit) form the beginning!!! And using all kind of diverting comments, helped by his "friends", to acuse me of not understanding English since the first of my comments, when I call the attention of this malicious / wrong remark!!


WHAT A FUCKING BAD JOKE!!!!


NOW, I AM MOST CURIOUS ABOUT WHO IS THE NEXT IDIOT TO BOICOT THIS ISSUE BY DOING A PSICOANALISIS OF MY PERSONALITY. CMMON, GO FOR MR DAVIES! GIVE'IM MORE TIME!

TALK ABOUT HOW BAD IS MR CADE!!!

gluteus maximus said...

cade you are a sad case and only a professional can help.

Cade said...

gluteus, I think I called you an idiot enough for today. I don’t need your encouragement. I’ll leave it there.


Lastly, for amateurish scholar Dr Colin Davies:

the next time you want to smear Galician nationalism, choose better your argument / excuse. The Lusitanian connection never existed, it does not exist, it will quite probably never exist, unless you explain us how.

Try this one though: The old Roman province of Gallaecia, preceding the old medieval kingdom, and inspiration for those longing for “Grande Galécia“ which would encompass the north of Portugal, down to the river Douro or even to the Mondego. Just run a quick websearch. There are even nazi-like retards among them. There are sympathisers in northern Portugal. There are boasters among them, but then again, you find idiots in any group of creed, just look at your blog. And ther are many more idiots among the Galicians who subscribe to the Spanish nationalist creed, which is also yours. (By the way, did you know you are a Spanish nationalist? No? Oh dear, you don't even know what you are!)



And a final piece of advise Mr Davies: don’t take yourself too seriously, you are not a professional scholar. If you get something wrong it is not the end of the world. But don’t try again to smear those who contest you fortunate / unfortunate “thoughts“, go to the point you are making without delay, you have no “hidden agenda“, have you?

Don't mention me in your posts, ok?, I will let you know whenever you cross the line. Enjoy your weekend.

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