Saturday, August 13, 2011

Gigolo News: if you missed this in my blog a couple of weeks ago, here's the story of the misled males. Or silly studs.

Spain's disaffected – and there's quite a lot of them – are not yet rioting but there's a suggestion here they might get round to it next week, when the Pope puts in an expensive appearance in Madrid. I rather hope not, as my younger daughter is also visiting for the World Youth Day. And I care very much more about her wellbeing than the Pope's.

Charles Butler of IBEXSalad has cited this fascinating article on German banking. Not to mention German society at large. It hasn't pleased all German commentators but I'm with the American who felt it had put them in a rather positive light. Charles's own take on the article is that “Readers might note the point at which an interviewee describes Germans as people who do not think the other party to an interaction is lying – and imagine what domestic mayhem can break loose when they find themselves married to a culture that has not the slightest expectation that the counter-party to even the most banal of street corner conversations is actually telling the truth.” For my part, I've long wondered what would happen when the Germans and Dutch, etc. found out where their money was going. Like the corruption-wreathed vanity project on the edge of Santiago, for example. Anyway, as someone who's long described the Spanish bum as phoney, the line in the article I liked best was this one - “Other countries used foreign money to fuel various forms of insanity. The Germans, through their bankers, used their own money to enable foreigners to behave insanely.”

Oh hell, I can't resist another quote - “At the bottom of this unholy mess is the unwillingness, or inability, of the Greeks to change their behavior.
That was what the currency union always implied: entire peoples had to change their ways of life. Conceived as a tool for integrating Germany into Europe, and preventing Germans from dominating others, it has become the opposite. For better or for worse, the Germans now own Europe. If the rest of Europe is to continue to enjoy the benefits of what is essentially a German currency, they need to become more German. And so, once again, all sorts of people who would rather not think about what it means to be “German” are compelled to do so.” The Spanish becoming German? No chance. I hope. There just has to be some other solution. Two euros?

Finally . . . When walking my canine guest this morning, I noted that twelve of the fourteen cars in my street had all four corners bashed or scratched. And most of them – including mine - had tell-tale abrasions down the passenger side, suggesting the driver had misjudged some wall or other. My excuse, though, is that I was hit by a flying
contenador as I drove down the hill in a gale.

Finally, finally . . . This will mean nothing to many but I've just enjoyed seeing England annihilate the no. 1 cricket team in the world, India, to go to the top of the international rankings.


Candide said...

Oh why don't you shut up. Many Germans know English, and you, Charles and Vanity Fair are going to bring down the EU. Because you're right.

That said, I'm all for two Euros for Spain.

CafeMark said...

Well that's 3 consecutive posts where you've taken the knee-jerk "English are always superior to Spanish" so therefore there MUST be worse Spanish riots soon. You've even quoted evidence of foreign tourists misbehaving in Lloret, as evidence of the Spanish propensity to riot. Twice. Well done (not). If there were Spanish riots/looting on that scale (and who knows what may happen if all the gloom continues), do you think that Spanish commentators would then be speculating on an equivalent English riot? Please accept that this time, the evidence is that disaffected Spanish youth have behaved far better than their English equivalents (the Scots are boasting it hasn't happened in Scotland). If God forbid, young people behave as badly and in equal numbers in Spain, you'll have your chance to crow then. Most of us are just sad it's happened again in England, as we remember the 80s riots, and the Bradford and Burnley riots in more recent years. Last thing I want to see is it being copied elsewhere.

Midnight Golfer said...

Tonight, massive presence of Guardia Civil, Madrid Police, and local police, in a hope to assure that recent, racially spurred vandalism, doesn't escalate to actual rioting here in my town, outside of Madrid.

Midnight Golfer said...

To be fair, the arrests so far have been the vast majority of immigrant muslims for vandalism. Tonight, they were just stopping everyone on their way into town. The only ones I saw being removed from their vehicles all had the appliance of surprisingly preppy-looking latinos.

Midnight Golfer said...

that should have auto-spelled as appearance, not appliance.

Colin said...


Not by any means for the first time, I don't think you really understand where I'm coming from. And, to be frank, I'm a bit fed up of it.

I have no intention whatsoever of suggesting English society is superior, In fact, as a long time reader of this blog you must be aware - as I've said it dozens of times - that Spanish society is not only superior to British society but that it's the best of the six I've lived in.

This belief doesn't stop me being pessimistic about the future.

On a point of detail, I said that the Spanish were having a practice run at dealing with riots in Lloret del Mar, not that there were Spaniards rioting. If anyone went to the link I cited (for this purpose), they could see who was doing the rioting.

And who the hell WANTS to see the English model copied? As I said to a visitor when we were among the inebriated young of Pontevedra tonight, the one thing you won't see is the violence that would be associated with crowds like this in the UK.

You seem to have an idée fixe. So, please do me the favour of reading my blog posts more carefully, without your pre-conceived view of what I'm saying or where I'm coming from.

CafeMark said...

Colin, there's a huge difference between mentioning once or twice in the aftermath, that you fear such riots may spread to Spain. We're constantly told that things are far worse in Spain in terms of jobs and recession etc (although I do wonder sometimes). And (more likely?) there could be political unrest, perhaps the anti-Pope marches or the Indignados kicking off again. But not, I suspect and hope, the widespread looting. So why three posts in a row, trying to point out that it looks likely in Spain next? If really necessary, you could have done this once (and yes put your links in). Why not instead spend more time on why the English engage in this type of looting when rioting? And why it's less common in Spanish cities - although I gather the Basque country (like N Ireland) is different. I appreciate you have a better impression of Spanish society than you've given this week. but I'm going on these 3 consecutive posts - we can't mind-read.

Colin said...


I write primarily about Galicia and Spain, not the UK.

Obviously, though, I do also write abut the UK. And The EU. As it happens, I was going to write at some length about the UK riots last night but, for one reason and another, ran out of time. Maybe tonight.

Ironically enough, my elder daughter wrote to me last night from the UK, though she lives in Madrid, suggesting I write an article for Prospect magazine on why the Spanish don't go in for rioting and looting like the English

BTW - Not all those who looted in the UK were 'disaffected'.

Mike the Traditionalist said...

The riots which involve looting in England are caused by the majority of one particular race. You won't find that happening in Northern Ireland or Spain. There may be some who will turn over bins and set fire to them but in general the Spanish don't attack and destroy other people's property. They don't break into shops and run off with the goods. They certainly don't go looting. Look at the past cases of people running riot and looting in London and see the areas where this has happened. I lived in several areas of London from 1959 to 1971 and on both sides of the River Thames. Probably doesn't mean anything to most readers but any Londoners reading this will know exactly what I am hinting at.

CafeMark said...

"BTW - Not all those who looted in the UK were 'disaffected'."

I agree entirely. In fact, in these riots most of the damage was done by opportunists, getting caught up in the excitement thinking they had a chance to steal and get away with it. For what it's worth I feel that we won't see this kick off again (hope I'm right) because the authorities are coming down heavily on culprits.

"I write primarily about Galicia and Spain, not the UK."

Well, that's why I come here. I just feel you overdid things by speculating 3 times in a row that the riot/looting would spread to Spain. Why not commentate on the fact it hasn't and the reasons why? Are the police that more effective or brutal there? Do you really think such looting would take place in Galicia? Let's hope not - if things got that bad, maybe we'd all need to emigrate to another continent